imminence is used. it's used as a substantive cry tearial and it's used to water down the procedure analysis in terms of what rights are due. here we know, as you said at the beginning, we know that these decisions are made with great care, great deliberation, and a painstaking process. any situation where there is no imneminence of any sort and in such a system there is room to build in many more procedural guarantees both for citizens and noncitizens whether required by law or not. >> just because they say there's all this care being taken, i don't believe that. this argument that's sort of emerging that you talked about that lou guy, i would probably be up in arms about this if a republican were doing it, it's like parkinson stockholm syndrome. i mean are these people serious? are they listening to their own words? you're saying this particular president, i want him to run the kill program but if they're republicans, i don't. you're willing to confront. >> nobody, i think, would disagree -- >> hold o